Exclusive: Emails Reveal Why Derrick Burts Backed Out of a Polygraph Test

Sep 26, 2011
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On December 13, 2010, five days after Derrick Burts “outed” himself as porn’s “Patient Zeta,” adult industry trade publication Adult Video News ran an open letter from porn agent Mark Spiegler, in which he offered Burts $1,000 to submit to a polygraph test. Burts would receive the money simply for submitting to the test, regardless of the outcome.

“It is my opinion, and my opinion only, that Derrick Burts aka Derek Chambers aka Cameron Reid DID NOT contract the HIV virus while shooting a scene for a pornographic movie (gay or straight),” Spiegler wrote.

Burts initially agreed to the offer, but the emails exchanged between Burts, Spiegler and the potential polygraph examiner reveal that Burts backed out after Spiegler refused to allow Burts to choose or substantially re-write the questions!

Regarding his alleged “escorting” activities – which came to light when his ad on the gay hook-up site Rentboy.com surfaced — Burts wanted to narrow the questioning to: “Did you ever meet or have sex with anyone from escorting on RentBoy?

Burts explained that because he had never acted on his RentBoy ad, there was “NO WAY possible for me to have contracted HIV from escorting….”

He also sought to alter a question about whether he had contracted HIV on set to “Did Jennifer Miller from AIM tell you that you had sex with a known positive gay performer while in Florida shooting?” In addition, Burts sought to narrow the question concerning whether or now he’d ever had bareback gay sex to whether or not he’d ever had bareback sex during a gay shoot.

“I would never risk having bareback sex as I am aware of the high risks involved of getting HIV from that method,” Burts wrote. “My agency is 100% against bareback porn and I never participated in a bareback shoot.”

Asking things like “If I ever did this or that” could refer to any point and time in my life before contracting HIV. I would like to stick to the time frame in which I may have contracted HIV which is between August and September as the widest gap. Based off the Western Blot test I contracted HIV around mid September. My last negative test was September 3rd… I tested positive on October 8th. There is a 60 day time frame for HIV to show in the body. So that would be all of August and September.

Yes, I did have sex with partners while swinging without a condom. Is it possible that I got if from swinging? No. It was outside of the time period and every girl I did swinging with was cleared on the quarantine list. Have I EVER had anal sex with a guy before? Yes… long time ago before starting porn…. If I am going to do this test then the 4 questions have to be specific and not broad.

On the next go-round, Burts suggested another configuration of the questions, including, “Did you have bareback anal sex with guys in any of your shoots in the time frame you may have contracted HIV?” [emphasis added]

Spiegler was flummoxed, and wrote the polygraph expert,

Please remind Derrick that the questions will be questions that I choose – not him. I am paying for the test and I want to have MY questions answered. Derrick cannot craft the questions to HIS liking.

After reading Spiegler’s ultimatum, Burts wrote a lengthy response — and also mentioned in passing both his “AHF Legal Council” [sic] and his Florida attorney, Norm Kent. Having previously stated, in his initial email, “I NEVER met with anyone from escorting PERIOD!” Burts now contradicted himself with some startling new admissions:

I had a posting for escorting during the time I got HIV, however, I did not meet with anyone from the ad. The reason I am time specific on the escort question is because back in May or June I met with a guy from Craigslist and gave a massage and a handjob on a guy… I classify that as escorting, however, there is no way I got HIV from that time since there was no sex and out of the time frame of being able to get HIV.

As for the anal sex question, there was a time I had unprotected sex with another guy while participating in a threesome at some point in June. I know I didn’t get HIV from that time as well because it was out of the range of time I could have got it and all people in that threesome have been tested since, it was also before I started porn….

Spiegler, interviewed the next day on AdultFYI, mocked Burts’ logic: “He goes, ‘I didn’t get it from [swinging] because they all tested negative.’ Like who gets everyone’s name and number at a swinger party?”

Many in the industry continue to speculate that Burts sought to alter the questions because he may have contracted HIV from someone involved with his Florida gay porn shoots with whom he had sex off –camera – perhaps even on set.

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  • Was this the guy that said he got the hiv from oral, because his throat was infected w/ chlamydia, making him more susceptible to catching it? Don’t quote me on this, but I believe I read that somewhere about a 3 dollar bill mope.

    Crunkleschwitz September 26, 2011 10:06 pm 10:06 PM Reply
  • I think it goes without saying that if you are being honest, it doesn’t matter how the question is phrased.

    Lydia Lee September 26, 2011 10:00 pm 10:00 PM Reply
    • That’s absurd. Polygraph tests require binomial replies and it is of paramount importance that the questions be carefully phrased and strictly confined to the issue under question. I don’t know if he’s telling the truth or not, but I didn’t find his objection to inappropriately broad and irrelevant questions at all unreasonable.

      Nick September 28, 2011 8:15 pm 8:15 PM Reply
      • Nick, you are correct, but it’s one thing to narrow the question in terms of time — it’s quite another to limit the focus to a particular advertisement for escorting. It may be true that he never had sex with anyone off of RentBoy, but he admits in his second email that he was also escorting off of Craigslist. He also admits (contrary to his earlier claim to have had a monogamous off-camera relationship with Crystal), to have engaged in bareback swinging activity.

        To me, the most damning part is where Burts sought to narrow the question concerning whether or not he’d ever had bareback gay sex to whether or not he’d ever had bareback sex during a gay porn shoot. That seems to me to be pure misdirection.

        One common theory is that Burts had sex with a man who turned out to be HIV+ while in Florida to shoot (in September 2010). This person, the theory goes, may have also been involved in some way with production. There3fore, under this theory, if Burts had been asked (as he suggested):

        “Did you have bareback anal sex with guys in any of your shoots in the time frame you may have contracted HIV?”

        he would have been able to truthfully answer NO.

        Had the question been asked as: “Did you have ANY gay bareback sex during the 90 days preceding your October 8th AIM test?” he might not, under this theory, have been able to truthfully answer NO.

        Michael Whiteacre September 28, 2011 11:04 pm 11:04 PM Reply
        • One more piece of the puzzle that supports this theory:

          Spiegler’s fourth question (of the allotted four) was:

          “Is it possible you may have contracted HIV outside of the adult entertainment business?”

          In his final email to the polygraph examiner, Burts wrote: “I kept his last question as is…. Do I think it was possible to get HIV from outside of working in the industry… my answer would be NO, which would come out true… proving that I truly believe I got this from working in the industry. . . . Do I believe I got this in Florida while working on a gay shoot? Yes, I am willing to state that which will prove that I am correct.”

          This supports the theory that Burts had sex with someone involved with one of his shoots — but not necessarily a performer on camera. Note that Burts changed “in any of your shoots” to “while working on a gay shoot.”

          Michael Whiteacre September 29, 2011 1:33 am 1:33 AM Reply
  • Burts never mentioned having had any STI in his mouth. He speculated on how he contracted HIV at a December 8, 2010 press conference:

    “In a gay shoot when you do have condoms, that obviously does help reduce the chance of getting it, but there’s other aspects to a shoot than just the sex part: there’s oral, where there’s no condom involved – on gay or straight side there’s no condoms used when you’re doing the oral part. The condom comes on in a gay scene where the actual sex takes place. So during an oral scene, there’s no condom in place.”

    “Not only that but, uhh, in porn we refer to it as the cum shot – the money shot – which is at the end. So, in gay porn, or in straight porn, you’re always gonna have the shot, you know, whether it’s on – usually on your chest, or your butt, or your back, you know. So there’s a chance that it could have come from the oral part, or also the cum shot, because when you get cum on you, you wipe it off with a rag, typically. So, — and then you go and shower off.”

    Note that Burts implied that oral sex is not sex.

    To have contracted HIV from oral sex, Burts likely would have had to have had recent oral surgery, or sores or other deep cuts in his mouth.

    In a telephone conference with reporters later that day, Burts altered or amended his theory, claiming that that he believed he might have contracted HIV after another performer ejaculated onto his back while Burts sat astride him. The semen, Burts speculated, leaked down the small of his back and up into his anus – either all on its own, or because Burts wiped himself with a rag.

    “The particular shoot where I think I may have contracted it was with Bang Bros. Productions in Florida, Venetian Productions, for one of their gay companies. When they did the cum shot, they pulled the condom off and the performer pretty much did the shot on my back rear end, and when that wiped off, I could have come in contact with that. So there’s no knowing exactly where I got it, and like I said, condoms doesn’t stop you from getting it, but like I said, it helps reduce the risk severely, and that’s what’s important.”

    If oral HIV transmission is a long-shot, then Burts’ second hypothesis is the magic bullet theory of HIV infection.

    Michael Whiteacre September 26, 2011 10:17 pm 10:17 PM Reply
    • Lol. I don’t believe he got HIV on set. Sorry

      porn4all September 26, 2011 10:20 pm 10:20 PM Reply
      • The lengths to which Burts went to alter the polygraph questions cast serious doubt on his claim.

        Michael Whiteacre September 26, 2011 10:32 pm 10:32 PM Reply
    • A correction — I should have stated that Burts didn’t ORIGINALLY mention having an STI in his mouth. In a June 2011 interview he told not one but TWO infection stories:

      He’s talking about the Florida shoot on which he says he believes he contracted HIV:

      “I did a shoot where I was riding [a co-star] on top, like a reverse cowboy. He had the condom on and at the end pulled the condom off and did the cum shot all over my butt and near my anus. I know that semen came in contact with that area. This is just an idea of how I got it.”

      In THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE he said this:

      “Either that or oral, because also the oral side of gay shoots is unprotected and it’s not like normal oral. You are doing 20 or 30 minutes of hardcore gagging. The cum shot was in my mouth. [It turns out that] I had gonorrhea in the throat during that shoot. When you have an active [sexually transmitted infection, or STI] it makes it a lot easier for you to contract HIV.”

      I thought the cum shot was on his back? Now it was in his mouth, too?

      Michael Whiteacre September 30, 2011 2:47 pm 2:47 PM Reply
  • Again, I think it goes without saying that if you are honest, it doesn’t matter how the question is phrased!

    Julie Meadows September 27, 2011 2:15 am 2:15 AM Reply
  • Hey! My comment went through. Thank you. 🙂 lol

    AHF allies with Lubben and then Burts… Their bar isn’t set very high on whose face they use to push their agenda, is it.

    Lydia Lee September 27, 2011 1:20 pm 1:20 PM Reply
    • we mod the 1st comment for everyone, then you become unmoderated….

      porn4all September 27, 2011 1:23 pm 1:23 PM Reply
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  • So sexy and beautiful…..daaaaamn!

    joanna November 16, 2011 4:30 pm 4:30 PM Reply
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