Fraud at The Heart of ‘Hot Girls Wanted’

May 31, 2015
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One of the stars of the new Netflix documentary Hot Girls Wanted has a secret, and it’s what the French call ‘problématique’

It has been written that “ideology knows the answer before the question has been asked.” Never has this been more clear than in the case of the new “documentary” film Hot Girls Wanted, which was snapped up by Netflix after its premiere screening at the Sundance Film Festival in January.

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The film looks at five young women who were recruited off of Craigslist by an “agent” in Miami, Florida named Riley from Hussie Models. It was directed by Jill Bauer and Ronna Gradus, whose previous documentary Sexy Baby, looked at an alleged cultural shift in the sexual landscape that, the women claim, was caused by adult entertainment.

The filmmakers claim their movie is the “first-ever look at the realities of the professional “amateur” porn world and the steady stream of 18-to-19-year old girls entering into it.”

Writing in Vice, Susan Elizabeth Shepard notes that the team’s new film is actually an exercise in offering “unexamined statements and vague intimations about how doing porn harms women and watching it warps men.” The agenda of the filmmakers is clear, says Shepard.

As Bauer and Gradus did in their previous film, Sexy Baby,they put forth the idea that porn has so thoroughly saturated popular culture that it’s not even necessary to watch actual pornography to absorb its influence…. Rather than explore how pornography might reflect society rather than shape it, they point to porn as the cause of societal ills. Bauer, for one, thinks that this leads to sexual assault. In an interview last week, she said, “All these [frat] boys are watching this porn… and it is no mistake that their behavior is aggressive, and that there are all these rapes on college campuses, because this is where it’s starting. This is what they’re watching.”

To reduce an epidemic of sexual assault to a problem instigated by pornography is problematic, at best. So, too, is [producer Rashida] Jones’s claim that “the trauma that it does on your body to have sex for a living is a real thing.”

These arguments (assertions, really) are right out of the playbook of radical feminist lecturer and academic fraud Gail Dines.

“Academic fraud” is a strong term — how could I substantiate that? Well, having previously claimed to have a “slew” of evidence on her side, Dines later admitted that, “there is no study, argument, or theory that will persuade us [i.e. radical feminists].” As writer Sarah Ditum noted in 2012, “Confronted with her own misuse of the research, she states that the research has never influenced her beliefs anyway.”

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As is usually the case when it comes to material critical of pornography or sex work, mainstream media have taken the movie at face value, regurgitating the filmmakers’ line that their “film attempts to pull back the covers on the amateur porn industry and its exploitive practices” (although Variety‘s glowing review did mention that the effect ‘pornified’ culture allegedly has on teen girls was “a point the film hits perhaps a bit too hard”).

Members of the adult film community, however — and in particular female adult performers (the group who would be natural allies of the filmmakers, were they honest and accurate in their presentation) — have mostly been outraged.

Adult star, and president of the Adult Performer Advocacy Committee (APAC), Chanel Preston wrote:

Overall, the documentary went like this: Here are these girls. They are being exploited. It is really sad. Then, after multiple scenes of tears and shame, the documentary ends with a vague message, leaving the viewer with a demonized view of the adult film industry.

I understand why Rashida Jones would want to make this documentary; she saw a group of young victims, and she wanted to raise awareness around the issue of female exploitation. Unfortunately, the documentary doesn’t have a view point about this subject beyond “this is bad” except that it alludes to pornography as being the problem.

Others in the adult biz took to Twitter to address the documentary:

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Netflix and the filmmakers have gone on an aggressive media tour in support of the documentary. Last week, the directors and producer Rashida Jones convened a panel on AOL Build to discuss the merits of the film, and its subject matter. Panelists included, on the pro-adult side, AVN’s Mark Kernes and law professor Nadine Strossen. The remainder of the panel spoke in support of the film, and included Gail Dines, and one of the documentary’s subjects, ex-performer Ava Taylor (a.k.a. Rachel).

The deck was stacked, as they say.

 

As one sex worker told TRPWL, “putting anti-pornography ‘academic’ Gail Dines on the panel shows the motivation behind the documentary. This film is being used as an excuse for more regulation in sex work; save the poor little girls who don’t know any better! How insulting is that? There’s nothing ’empowering’ to women about that message.”

Indeed, dragging Dines out on the press tour is a clear a sign as anyone should need that the filmmakers intended their work to be a propaganda piece, not merely a documentary simply presenting a story.

Ava Taylor aka Rachel with Rashida Jones - Fraud at The Heart of 'Hot Girls Wanted'

Ava Taylor aka Rachel with Rashida Jones. “I’m trying to be famous, so you gotta do what you gotta do,” say Rachel in the film.

An impassive and rather lackluster adult performer, Ava/Rachel oozed a sense of entitlement in the documentary; she wanted to make money and get famous fast. On the AOL panel, the dressed down and bespectacled Ava/Rachel — who claims to be out of sex work — is angry and combative, hurling blame at producers, her agent, and even the testing system for adult performers.

On one of her Twitter accounts, she has repeated how glad she is to be out, and moving on with her life.

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She also repeats the view that porn is exploitative of “girls” and retweets anti-porn accounts:

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However, there are a couple of big problems with what Ava/Rachel is saying.

For one thing, in March of this year — two months after Hot Girls Wanted premiered, Ava was back in Los Angeles shooting brand new porn scenes. A few of them are already available online:

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This despite the fact that the film claims she had left adult entertainment. And guess who Rachel/Ava had book those scenes for her? Riley from Hussie Models.

Shocked yet? Wait, it gets better.

Rachel/Ava currently offers escort sercvices online.

Fraud at The Heart of 'Hot Girls Wanted' - Ava Taylor escort ad, May 29, 2015

When I tweeted the above screen cap to Rachel/Ava, she replied that she had no control over who uses her pics online, and that her pics were also up on an adult agent’s website — implying quite clearly that she was not actually available and that her pics were being used without her permission. However, I can confirm beyond any question that she has in fact been taking escort appointments for some time.

Following a Twitter blow-up with myself and others on May 30 (after which she deleted several tweets), Rachel/Ava was moved to the escort site’s UTR (Under the Radar) section, but a post on TheEroticReview that advertised her services remained until it was deleted earlier today (May 31).

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Notice the date. Rachel/Ava is escorting right now — at the same time she is telling the world that she has better things to do than make a living off of her body.

Did the filmmakers know that Rachel/Ava has been putting one over on the public? And do they even care as long as their agenda gets eyeballs.

Let’s take a look the people behind Hot Girls Wanted.

Above the line

Among the producers is feminist philanthropist Abigail Disney (granddaughter of Roy O. Disney, co-founder of The Walt Disney Company). Previously, Disney served as Executive Producer on Bauer and Ronnus’ Sexy Baby. More recently, Disney made the news as one of the team of feminists (including anti-porn / anti-sex work feminist icon Gloria Steinem) endorsed by dictator Kim Jong-Un to announce they would march across the DMZ and hold a “peace conference” in North Korea.

Abigail Disney

Abigail Disney

Human Rights Foundation founder Thor Halvorssen was flabbergasted, and told reporters that the marchers are playing the role of useful idiots. “How many female defectors have they spoken to? None,” says Halvorssen.

The march was organized by a woman named Christine Ahn, who, as Foreign Policy noted, has worked closely with Korea Policy Institute (KPI) “and the now-defunct Korea Solidarity Committee [which] take positions that support or refuse to criticize the Kim dictatorship. And Ahn has spent much of the last 15 years whitewashing a North Korean government that the U.N. Human Rights Commission has said is guilty of ‘appalling human rights abuses … on a scale unparalleled in the modern world’ and ‘crimes against humanity with strong resemblances to those committed by the Nazis.'”

“How can Steinem and Disney participate given the rapes, forced abortions and sex trafficking?” Halvorssen asks. “Kim Jong-Un is right now putting his pleasure group of concubines together. Do they even know that?”

Ms. Disney also had a hand in the film, The Mask You Live In. The organization behind that movie, The Representation Project, claims that their film asks:

as a society, how are we failing our boys? The film will examine how gender stereotypes are interconnected with race, class, and circumstance, and how kids are further influenced by the education system, sports culture, and mass media- video games and pornography in particular. The film also highlights the importance of placing emphasis on the social and emotional needs of boys through healthy family communication, alternative teaching strategies, conscious media consumption, positive role modeling and innovative mentorship programs. The goal of this film is to spark a national conversation around masculinity and ultimately create a more balanced, equitable society for all.

As one commentator noted, masculinity is mentioned “only in the context that there is something wrong with masculinity that needs to be fixed – by feminist filmmakers and organizations dedicated to the ’empowerment’ of women and girls.” This is the Gloria Steinem – Gail Dines school of feminism.

Mary Anne Franks, an avowed feminist, is the film’s Co-Producer. She is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of Miami School of Law. She’s also a Catherine MacKinnon protégé who claims that the ruling in the Freeman case (which held that pornography is not prostitution and constitutes protected speech) “doesn’t hold up to legal analysis”.

Franks brags that she has worked with legislators to draft legislation against the non-consensual distribution of sexually explicit images. What she doesn’t mention is, as Mike Masnick notes at TechDirt, “her goal is to undermine Section 230 protections for websites (protecting them from liability of actions by third parties) to make them liable for others’ actions.” In other words, she would criminalize websites, ISPs and other third parties such as Google — punishing them with criminal penalties for material created and posted by others; material they likely never knew had been posted in the first place. The chilling effect this would have on speech cannot be overstated — and it is precisely the intention. (More on Mary Anne Franks and her pet revenge porn legislation.)

Jill Bauer, Rashida Jones, Ronna Gradus - AP

Jill Bauer, Rashida Jones, Ronna Gradus – AP

Add to this mix, the ‘face’ of the project, actress and producer Rashida Jones. The daughter of mega-rich musician and music producer Quincy Jones, and actress Peggy Lipton, Rashida grew up in a world of rare privilege. She attended the Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, California, whose other notable alumni include Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. A clip of Kardashian appears in Hot Girls Wanted, yet Jones appears oblivious to the fact that far more young women seek to emulate pseudo-celebrities such as her schoolmates than they do porn stars. Then again, those elite born into privilege — the winners of life’s lottery — never see their own corner of the world as the problem.

(As a side note, if you want to read something truly revolting, try Jones and Franks slobbering all over each other in this piece in Glamour.) 

Jones too comes from the Gail Dines school of feminism — she clutches her pearls close to her chest and frets over the Pornification of Everything. Women are “not considering the real cost, the psychological cost, the emotional cost, the physical cost,” Jones opines, while claiming that modern porn is defined by degrading and violent imagery.

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Director/author Ernest Greene notes the connection between ‘Hot Girls Wanted’ and an earlier anti-porn documentary, ‘The Price of Pleasure’

Jones’ fellow producer is Debby Herbenick, an associate professor at Indiana University School of Public Health. As Mark Kernes reports at AVN:

“Human sexuality is broad, diverse, rich, nuanced and allows for so many possibilities about how a person can experience their sexuality,” Herbenick told Mic.com. “The kinds of sexualization and objectification we see in most mainstream porn tends to be pretty narrow… As my students often point out, porn sex often focuses on people’s genitals—as if that’s all that matters—and often features titles that describe women as ‘dirty whores’ or ‘sluts’.”

I don’t know what kind of porn Dines, Jones and Herbenickis are watching, but it doesn’t seem to align with the top selling and award-winning titles compiled by adult industry trade publication AVN, as Mark Kernes notes here.

Then again, as commentator and author Jordan Owen points out, Dines still tells “crowded lecture halls that Gag Me Then Fuck Me is one of the most popular porn sites on the web when the readily available empirical evidence of internet stats like those on Alexa show that it’s actually extremely unpopular.”

Christina Parreira also had a few choice words for the filmmakers:

I watched Hot Girls Wanted, and as a sex worker (and as a human being with agency) I was disgusted. This is nothing more than a propaganda piece from start to finish, infantilizing the adult women that chose to participate in pornography. Suddenly, they’re painted as helpless exploited victims with no agency, when in reality, they were adult women who signed contracts. Did they do their research into the unlicensed/unbonded agency they signed with? Perhaps not, but whose fault is that? This “documentary” takes a small slice of amateur pornography and makes it seem representative of ALL pornography. It does not reflect the realities and work lives of women who were savvy enough to do their research and to work with respected agencies and companies.

Outspoken adult star Mercedes Carrera offered this perspective on the affluent self-appointed saviors who dominate the documentary’s credits:

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We’ll give the last word to Susan Elizabeth Shepard, who closed her Vice op/ed with the following:

While porn performer may be the only legal occupation where sexual boundaries are so blatantly up for negotiation, it’s not the only place where workers can get treated unfairly. It’s just the only place where the industry itself, rather than its practices, is subject to condemnation. Porn performers need the space to talk about bad experiences, however they describe them, without having them used as evidence against their entire business. Hot Girls Wanted reinforces tired sexual stereotypes that harm all women, while ignoring the real work concerns specific to porn performers. In its moral simplicity and willingness to exploit its subjects, it ends up resembling the genre it aims to expose.

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Ira Levine
8 years ago

For as long as there’s a buck to be turned off moral panic over porn, these charlatans will be out there telling lies and exploiting sex workers in order to get their grubby, sweaty paws on them. My real anger is at Chris Hayes, who I usually regard with some respect as a journalist, lobbing soft-ball questions at the producer of this latest hunk of tripe on his MSNBC show. Normally a tough interviewer, he did not challenge a single cooked statistic or ginned up pseudo-fact this graduate of The Josef Goebbels School of Journalism puked up. Hayes also failed… Read more »

Quorrl
Quorrl
8 years ago

Can that escort site really be trusted? Do you know the people behind them personally, so that you can be sure you trust them as witnesses?

And just because this forum post on TheEroticReview.com was changed, does that really prove anything?

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  Quorrl

As I wrote in the article, the validity of the escort ads has been established without question.

Norma Jean Almodovar
8 years ago

It never ceases to amaze me that the gall these abolitionists have in trying to overturn our Constitutional rights by making absurd claims about porn and prostitution. I’ve been fighting these despicable fraudulent ‘feminists’ for 33 years now and instead of making progress, we are going backwards. What happened to “my body, my choice”? Or are we only allowed to make choices of which THEY approve? Given the talent in the sex worker community to write articulate and well documented articles, it is heartbreaking to see the liars and frauds winning the day with their propaganda pieces. An excellent article,… Read more »

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago

Thank you, Norma, I’m honored that you read it.

crunkleschwitz
crunkleschwitz
8 years ago

So by associating w/ all them man h8n feminist loons, we should be able to safely say that Rashida is probably more into eating pie than strudel, huh?

Ira Levine
8 years ago
Reply to  crunkleschwitz

Her sexual orientation isn’t relevant to the issue anyway, but for what it’s worth, she comes across as very much het. She’s also conventionally attractive and presents as femme. I doubt that’s any less calculated than anything else about this whole disingenuous project. Dines is a veritable radfem poster girl who instantly triggers every suspicion you might hold about her motives. Rashida is far less threatening to the ordinary viewer, which helps disguise the fact that they’re clones under the skin.

Anthony Kennerson
8 years ago

What strikes me most about this scam of a “documentary” is the funding by the Disney and (indirectly) the Hunt foundations. For someone who claims to be a “critic” of capitalism, Dines sure depends on multimillionaires for her screeds, doesn’t she? Also….the “documentary” also goes to the usual libel of how all porn girls have to go through “hate sex” sites like FacialAbuse.com in order to get paid. That’s funny, since all the performers I know and follow have been able to reject offers to shoot for that site for whatever reasons, and they managed to survive. If anything, FA… Read more »

crunkleschwitz
crunkleschwitz
8 years ago

How dare you! 3rd rate? Not the boys of the Jersey Wrecking Crew.

AL_360
AL_360
8 years ago

Great article

I was amused when Jill Bauer & Ronna Gradus claimed that they’re neither “pro-porn or anti-porn” as I watched panel on AOL.

johnny
johnny
8 years ago

Uhhh, there were a couple of points in here that were valid, but the vomit spewing from the author’s mouth pretty much obscured them. For example: “Rashida grew up in a world of rare privilege. She attended the Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, California, whose other notable alumni include Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. A clip of Kardashian appears in Hot Girls Wanted, yet Jones appears oblivious to the fact that far more young women seek to emulate pseudo-celebrities such as her schoolmates than they do porn stars.” The film plainly insinuates, if not outright states, that sex videos of… Read more »

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  johnny

You have it precisely backwards. “[T]o include information concerning how this young woman currently earns a living seems less about contradiction and more about shaming” — No, the fact of the matter is that she is a liar. Either she was put up to it by the producers, or she chose to lie to meet their needs, but the filmmakers have put a liar before the public to speak in support of the film and its underlying anti-porn message. However, to state that she is a liar one needs to provide corroboration. I’d like to know where anyone who reads… Read more »

markm
markm
8 years ago
Reply to  Deep Throat

Like all successful sex workers, Ava/Rachel is an actress, among other things. It’s far more likely that the liars are the editors and producers who presented her paid performance as real.

TheRealJPaulRead (@RealJPaulRead)

It seems to be a reoccurring theme from the anti-porn feminists, every five or eight years or so they prop up someone who had allegedly a terrible experience in the adult industry, in the hopes of social outcry, looking for a tipping point where more industry performers would come forward and justify their crusade. But it never happens that way. There’s always a Lubben who claim that many current and former stars and starlets have come to them with their stories of heartache and abuse, only to have said performer make their own statement to clear the air. If the… Read more »

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[…] …Hot Girls Wanted…looks at five young women who were recruited off of Craigslist by an “agent” in Miami, Florida named Riley from Hussie Models.  It was directed by Jill Bauer and Ronna Gradus, whose previous documentary Sexy Baby, looked at an alleged cultural shift in the sexual landscape that, the women claim, was caused by adult entertainment…Writing in Vice, Susan Elizabeth Shepard notes that the team’s new film is actually an exercise in offering “unexamined statements and vague intimations about how doing porn harms women and watching it warps men”…one of the documentary’s subjects, ex-performer Ava Taylor …oozed a sense of entitlement…she wanted to make money and… Read more »

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[…] film, which has been rejected  by members of the adult community as an infantilizing anti-porn hit piece, looks at a group […]

Pornfan991
8 years ago

This is a great article. They portrayed porn as not giving these girls any choices but they had plenty of choices. With a better agent and not getting gigs off of craiglist things would have been much better.

Ernest Greene
Ernest Greene
8 years ago
Reply to  Pornfan991

Obviously they were looking for those who make bad choices to buttress their case. Lots of cam girls are doing very well, living the lives they want and speaking articulately about the issues that concern them. Clearly, their mere existence is a threat to the prohibitionist cause and they’ll never get a minute to have their say as long as the Dines crowd has a death grip on the brainstems of mainstream news producers.

Elle
Elle
8 years ago

“This film is being used as an excuse for more regulation in sex work; save the poor little girls who don’t know any better!” uhm… what’s wrong with more regulation? Later on you quote Elizabeth Shepard who suggests that the film “ignore[s] the real work concerns specific to porn performers.” So, like any industry there are real labour issues and there are clearly regulation issues that lead to concerns (do you leave room that these concerns can include exploitation? perhaps not to every performer or by every company). Where is the room to be critical of labour issues in pro-amateur… Read more »

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  Elle

“[W]hat’s wrong with more regulation?” LOL A lot. “[S]tronger requirements for women to understand their rights when it comes to adult entertainment” Are you shittiing me? “Rachel/Ava clearly states she is in a contract with L.A. Direct that she can’t get out of meaning she still has to work for them…” No, the contract does not mean that; it means that IF she works she has to pay them a commission. No contract is enforceable that would require someone to do porn against their will. And in any event, Ava/Rachel HAS BEEN shooting porn voluntarily, using Riley to book the… Read more »

Elle
Elle
8 years ago

“[S]tronger requirements for women to understand their rights when it comes to adult entertainment” Are you shittiing me?” No, lol. There are plenty of non profit organizations in the states that work specifically on labour rights education. I think more can be done around adult entertainment, a good initiative is http://apac-usa.com/ who you cite. Click on “education” and you see a perfectly good example of a video full of adult entertainment performers using their platform to discuss what someone’s rights and responsibilities are when it comes to filming porn. That being said, i am not familiar about any others besides… Read more »

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[…] it's also been panned—particularly by sex workers—as a piece of simplistic, hyperbolic, and fraudulent propaganda, guilty of portraying its subjects as victimized naifs devoid of […]

Nikki Swarm
Nikki Swarm
8 years ago

There is enough to critique in the film and the behavior of the filmmakers to fill up an article without outing a sex worker as an escort. This only adds to the anti sex work slut shaming that Hot Girls Wanted its parading around like education. We don’t need to participate in their garbage behavior and mistreatment of young women. If she wants her escorting to be private, we should respect that. I urge you to reconsider your decision to publish this information, and take it down. If this stays up, how are we any better than the schmuck kid… Read more »

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  Nikki Swarm

“We don’t need to participate in their … mistreatment of young women. If she wants her escorting to be private, we should respect that.” You are so off base it’s hard to describe. You clearly have a unique definition of “private”: this young woman has advertised her escort services online — PUBLICLY — using her adult performer name to trade on its value. AFTER she was caught in her own lies (by us, by the way) — lies which threw sex workers and the adult business under the bus — the escort site moved her to the UTR section. “[H]ow… Read more »

Ernest Greene
Ernest Greene
8 years ago
Reply to  Deep Throat

I’m at a loss to understand why anyone would leap to the defense of a Quisling who sells out to people intending to make her livelihood impossible along with those of all her colleagues while still soaking every dime she can out of the business her new “friends” are trying to destroy with lies and smears. If it turned out that a labor organizer working for the UMW was also in the pay of the Koch brothers I can’t imagine any of the hand-wringers here would be so protective of that individual. As for Ava, if she wanted to avoid… Read more »

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  Nikki Swarm

Her you go, Nikki — ABC news outed your girl Rachel’s full name and hometown.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hot-girls-wanted-teen-girls-seeking-fame-lured/story?id=31290984

They also add: “[Rachel] is back at home with her parents and her dream is to become a movie director. She now works doing photography for local musicians.”

But woe unto us if we point out that this is a calculated lie by a conniving liar, right?

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Three Performers Weigh In On Hot Girls Wanted - Kinky
8 years ago

[…] the Adult Industry. Vice describes it as reenforcing “tired sexual stereotypes,” while many others dispute studies the documentary uses and call it a negative and inaccurate portrayal of the […]

Sandra Webbear
8 years ago

Mr. Throat, after listening to “Rachel/Ava” in the AOL segment, wouldn’t you agree her education surrounding the industry, representation, even STDs and transmission is seriously lacking? I’m sure there are many other young ADULT women/men who have this same problem and their ignorance can be easily exploited. I’m really doubting the level of comprehension some of these women have when they supposedly, ‘know what they signed up for.’

Ernest Greene
Ernest Greene
8 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Webbear

And they were cherry-picked to inspire just this kind of leading question. In a manipulative piece of propaganda no fact that might upset the creators message. Again, the producers went to someplace far removed from where most camming is done, sought out what they thought would be the easiest targets for their rhetoric and posed questions intended to draw out answers supportive to their main contention, which is that cam girls are exploited labor and are just too ignorant and immature to be making these decisions for themselves without the “help” of Gail Dines. The producers count on gullible viewers… Read more »

Gerald
Gerald
8 years ago
Reply to  Ernest Greene

http://bit.ly/1f5OizI
TLC link of Ava
lel Gail Dines, I can do without this demagogue. The coon probably subscribes to theminion Rashida is a pretty fair host though. Would fap to naked Nadine >paid rape >muh statistics
@Deep Throat, why can’t you reveal your confirmation of the escorting? sounds a little hearsay at this point

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  Gerald

Gerald, I cannot out my sources. I would not have run that part of the story had I not confirmed those facts through credible sources. All I can say is, my sources are unassailable, and I have detailed statement(s) in writing.
Also, had I belabored the point by using some of the info I have, I could predict being accused of “shaming” a sex worker for her work, which is not my aim.

Sandra Webbear
8 years ago

Ernest, I’m not making a sweeping generalization of the entire industry. But, I don’t think it’s too far fetched to believe there are other women like “Ava/Rachel”. AND, that there are women targeted and exploited within the industry. I’m not talking the industry in its entirety. It’s pretty telling when the chick doesn’t even know condoms offer very minimal protection against herpes, particularly when exposed (condom or no condom) to an outbreak. Shouldn’t knowledge of STDs and their transmission be one of the tools of the trade? I’m sure they did cherry-pick “Ava/Rachel” and, in a sense, exploited her to… Read more »

Ernest Greene
Ernest Greene
8 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Webbear

That’s the question that should be put to the producers at places like ABC and MSNBC. It costs money to make a network standard documentary and people like Dines are supported by colleges (Wheelock in her case, NYU in the case of Chyng Sun), government agencies (as Melissa Farley’s “prostitution research” was funded by the Bush administration in exchange for a pledge not to allow any suggestion of decriminalization by anyone interviewed into the final report) and right-wing religious outfits like The Family Research Counsel that take in millions yearly in tax exempt contributions. Why don’t major news gathering organizations… Read more »

Gerald
Gerald
8 years ago
Reply to  Ernest Greene

@Mr Throat, you might have seen http://jezebel.com/in-hot-girls-wanted-porn-isnt-ruining-women-exploitat-1709109263 but here it is in case anyone else hasn’t. They’re also running with the “she was back in business and an escort on top” story, citing you as a source. The she was back shooting porn part was proved with the release of new scenes starring: her, but I have to remain sceptical on the other claim given the weight of available evidence or lack thereof. Imho if your evidence is as damning as you say, I’m certain it’ll be seen as proper investigative journalism rather than any malice or as you say,… Read more »

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago
Reply to  Gerald

Gerald, one of the screenshots we published is of a post that was published on The Erotic Review announcing her availability through a leading escort agency. Multiple sources confirm she is escorting (she’s also, all of a sudden, driving a new BMW). Moreover, you assume that the writer for Jezebel used my article as the sole source for the escorting assertion.

Anthony Kennerson
8 years ago

One fascinating aspect of the Gawker article updating Ava/Rachel’s hypocrisy is how they go deep into her supposed conflict with LA Direct Models agent guru Derek Hay over getting paid for some scenes. Perhaps that explains how Lisa Ann all of a sudden has been sending out love tweets to the producers of HGW? Or, is it just the countinuing search for a camera to preen since her career went bust…..errrrrrr, her retirement? Or, her continuing war to “purge” the sex industry of “escorts” and “whores”?

Deep Throat
Deep Throat
8 years ago

Ava/Rachel came under Lisa Ann’s tutelage some time ago, and coincidentally or otherwise, that was when things appear to have started to go off the beaten track for ol’ Rachel.

Awesta
Awesta
8 years ago

rachel has stated numerous times that when she was in the industry she signed a contract that allows the escort company to keep her name on the site as long as they keep offering her work, not mattering if she’s in the industry or not. She just got accepted into the art institute of Chicago and is a thriving photographer so tell me where porn still fits into her life? And the other porn stars that are bashing the doc obviously didn’t catch on to the fact that Jill and Ronda made it very clear that they were focusing on… Read more »

john paul
john paul
8 years ago

What was the escort site that Ava was on?

johnny
johnny
8 years ago

Who ever own the picture,can basically do whatever they want with them,unless otherwise is stated in the contract, cant they?

Dave Nielsen
Dave Nielsen
8 years ago

What a moron. Do you have any real proof that “Ava” didn’t leave the industry, as she says? Notice, I said “real proof.” This site is an embarrassment. You’re a loser who doesn’t want to have to feel guilty when he jacks off.

James Rustles
James Rustles
7 years ago

Ava Taylor has a body that was meant for porn. Regardless of the article, interviews, or tweets and boohoos, she’s fulfilling her life’s destiny. I, for one, give her my best one-handed salute and hope to see her back on the camera doing what she does best before she gets BTFO by too many huge penises.

Ashley J.
Ashley J.
7 years ago

@Dave Nielsen She had a video release February 2016 through Passion, and when this video debuted on Netflix she had a number of clips from Mofo, Porn Pros, and Digital Desires.

Tom
Tom
7 years ago

It is quite common for adult video companies to hold on to content for up to 2 years before actually releasing it. This can be proven by looking at the current videos being released by Dakota Skye. Earlier this year she got a half sleeve tattoo on her left upper arm. You will see content with the release dates within the last few months where there is no tattoo. She the fact that Ava has content being release doesn’t mean the content was filmed recently.

TRPWL
Admin
7 years ago
Reply to  Tom

Ava is actually back to shooting…

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